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Butter Dog The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.05.07 11:00:00 - [1] CVA decided to escalate the conflict with UK. What had been a three-year long skirmish war suddenly, and inexplicably, because more serious. It was now about survival. UK responded sensibly, by selecting allies in her fight for survival, who are both capable and willing. CVA chose to abandon traditional RP'ing ROE and roll in with 150 v 50, but things have levelled up since then as UK responded in kind. I'm sorry it's not the walkover you had expected ---------- signature removed - please do not discuss moderation in your signature graphic - Jacques([email protected])
Butter Dog The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.05.07 17:06:00 - [2] Originally by: Grimster Question. Now that the RP cat is essentially out of the bag, with both the CVA and UK sides requesting "outside" assistance, can we assume that both these alliances are now fair game as 0.0 entities? I know that others have already stated that this should be the case, but there are always a hard-core that state RP should be left to RP. Just interested. CVA abandoned the traditional RPing rules of engagement when they decided they wanted to 'win'. So they brought a blob of 150 including many non-RPers to 9UY to attempt to take the station. I think it's fair to say that it is now a free-for-all. ---------- signature removed - please do not discuss moderation in your signature graphic - Jacques([email protected])
Butter Dog The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.05.08 06:55:00 - [3] Originally by: Murukan In the end though it will always come down to U'k and CVA for prov. The alliances helping out either side won't be there in the long run as there really isn't any reward for living in prov really. If U'K does amass enough allies to take over CVA's stations it won't be that way in the long term as CVA has shown themselves superior to U'K in pvp prowess over and over again. When it settles back down and it's CVA vs U'K and ex-iss rabble CVA will regain their dominance over the area. Although it would make me happy to see CVA thoroughly spanked, from engaging them quite a few times during the Priory's war against them, and random encounters with U'K, CVA does have the edge. U'K are a scrappy bunch though so don't give up! This is largely true, and CVA at this moment are stronger than U'K alone. But U'K have never displayed any interest in a territorial POS war with CVA. The fights that have been roleplayed over the past 4 years between CVA/UK have been just that - stand up fights, not protracted seiges (and we all know how much 'fun' they are). I personally find it strange that CVA are looking to get rid of their playmate. If CVA do take the last U'K station, who are they going to have fun with on a day-by-day basis? QR is already empty 95% of the time, CVA simply don't have the numbers to support 5 outposts. Its a curious move. ---------- signature removed - please do not discuss moderation in your signature graphic - Jacques([email protected])
Butter Dog The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.05.08 17:45:00 - [4] Edited by: Butter Dog on 08/05/2007 17:44:51 Originally by: Hardin The attack on QR was carried out by a collection of pro-Amarr corporations and alliances. The only one that the Minmatar's had any quibble about was 's3verance' - presumably because they hadn't seen them before - however, the CVA and s3verance had been working together for quite a while to protect a low-sec area of Amarr space from pirates. Just a point of fact, s3verance are not Ammarian roleplayers in any sense of the word. They are anti-pirate, but then so are many entities in EVE. In truth, we in the Hobos roleplay more against Amarr slavers than they ever have done against the Minmatar. And I don't consider us to be an RP corp by any stretch of the imagination (though some of us dabble). I know s3verance well because I spent the best part of a year shooting the member corps prior to them forming an alliance. Participants in the roleplay community they are not. That said, nearly all members of BUM fought for UK the last time their station was under serious threat. We have a history with them. There are clear and legitimate reasons why we would seek to offer them help once more. ---------- signature removed - please do not discuss moderation in your signature graphic - Jacques([email protected])
Butter Dog The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.05.08 18:01:00 - [5] Originally by: Lowanaera Originally by: Witch Doctor As for their new allies, it is actually quite a good match across the board. There are shades of "piracy", and their new friends (EST, ENH, 0utbreak) are more on the "bloodthirsty PVPers who might chat you up afterwards" end vs. the "anklebiting script kiddies who smack in local and can't spell or punctuate" end. You obviously haven't been in 9UY this week CVA and U'K have a tradition of Local debates, preaching from our end, derision (and some hilarious *****s) from theirs. Can't get an word in edgewise now with all the smack, mostly from BUM and ENH. Not that some of our people haven't smacked right back despite orders otherwise, but it's sad and annoying how some of them never shut up, ever. I havent seen any real smack, tbh. Maybe you're too sensitive? (or is that smack?) ---------- signature removed - please do not discuss moderation in your signature graphic - Jacques([email protected])
Butter Dog The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.05.09 17:54:00 - [6] Originally by: Peri Helion Originally by: Eddie Gordo Who was invited/who offered Prior Residents BUM - already residents of 9uy (long history with them through ISS) ENH - already basing out of 9uy (a long history of fighting them in a passed, but after repeated diplomacy efforts on their part and an additional roleplayed letter we set them blue prior to the 9uy attack)[no dreads] Ev0ke - Recently departed from D2 & without a home, we were already in talks with them before the assult.[no dreads] EST - Were already in talks about the possibility of a nap & docking rights prior to 9uy attack.[no dreads] Invited Themselfs Outbreak - Contacted us and offered help, who were we to refuse!? [no dreads] Invited by Ushra'khan Chaos Encarnate - Helped us in QR, friends of imperial order. Only ally to be deploying large numbers of dreads. I must make it clear, that ALL of the people listed as prior residents agreed to a NDRS policy in Ushra'khan Sov space. None of them are "pirates" in the stricted sense of the word. All of them are pretty nasty :) What exactly do you mean when you say no Dreads? And why are you pointing this out? He means they have not committed dreads to the fight. ---------- signature removed - please do not discuss moderation in your signature graphic - Jacques([email protected])
Butter Dog The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.05.10 17:54:00 - [7] Originally by: Hardin (Saying that they (Establishment/ENH/Bum/Evoke etc) are actually good foes and great to fight. I am certainly sure they are not taking great offense at being labelled 'ebil pirates' in the same way that UK isn't really upset about being called 'terrorists'. They probably understand it in the spirit that it is meant - something which you quite clearly don't! Who knows they may even enjoy it We do not take offense, but equally I don't think the term 'pirate' is accurate. It implies an economic basis for your PvP. We have a solid economic base built on T2 and Capital production, which for us is the 'enabler' of our trigger-happy stance. I prefer the term 'resource management'. We have friends in Providence, who have proven their value as friends. And yet there are hordes of leeches sucking the resources of this already barren region dry. We simply act to assist our friends, by means of effectively managing resource utilisation. If blue status has not been earned, then in our view we have no obligation to allow the 'neutral' to conduct their business, which places stress on the available resources within the region. This 'leech' effect would be detrimental to our friends (and ourselves of course), and so it is only right and proper that action is taken to remedy it. ---------- signature removed - please do not discuss moderation in your signature graphic - Jacques([email protected])
Butter Dog The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.05.11 18:04:00 - [8] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk IAC doesn't particularly care about providence pipeline, we do care about CVA and ofc we care about U'K since they were part of the group of alliances that tried to destroy us recently. How is the fight with Outbreak going since your decent PvP corps left? ---------- signature removed - please do not discuss moderation in your signature graphic - Jacques([email protected])
Butter Dog The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.05.12 08:24:00 - [9] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk IAC doesn't particularly care about providence pipeline, we do care about CVA and ofc we care about U'K since they were part of the group of alliances that tried to destroy us recently. How is the fight with Outbreak going since your decent PvP corps left? 10x as well as it was when they were still in IAC o rly Must have been some party before they left ---------- signature removed - please do not discuss moderation in your signature graphic - Jacques([email protected])
Butter Dog The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.05.12 08:36:00 - [10] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk That period includes when they were in IAC, genius. They were in IAC yesterday? Interesting. ---------- signature removed - please do not discuss moderation in your signature graphic - Jacques([email protected])

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